foulala Posted February 8, 2014 at 04:28 PM Posted February 8, 2014 at 04:28 PM (edited) Mon ex. Espacement des cordes réduit, mais un putain de vrai son. Montée en E A D G C on doit pas pouvoir trouver mieux. Edited February 8, 2014 at 04:29 PM by foulala Quote
Jazz Ad Posted February 8, 2014 at 04:40 PM Posted February 8, 2014 at 04:40 PM Ouais, une sacrée growleuse. Elle m'a bien servi mais je ne vais plus en avoir besoin. Quote
foulala Posted February 8, 2014 at 04:46 PM Posted February 8, 2014 at 04:46 PM Une "player", qui porte les stigmates de son passé, mais une enchanteresse. Y'a pas photo. Si non un copié - collé du post du gonze qui a choppé la 2024 à touche érable sur BC : I've no doubt that this isn't 'the best' Precision Bass, or even the best Yamaha Precision Bass, but I can justify my enthusiasm in pretty clear terms.I have - as the pages of BC will testify - owned an awful lot of basses, mostly the work of, or derivatives of the work of, Leo Fender, and for a brief period some by Ric and Modulus. Whilst I've often gushed about nearly all of them, and whilst most of them were very good instruments for what they were, all had limitations if I looked beyond the 'what they were' argument. By this I mean that my c64 and v63 were outstanding Rics and outstanding instruments, they did the Ric thing incredibly well, but there are times at which the Ric thing isn't right. Likewise most of my Precisions did the Precision thing very well, but on occasions I needed a little bit more. My late '90s Modulus Flea was the most playable and powerful bass i've owned, but it's core tone was a little Jazz/Stingray, when the core tone I look for is more Precision/Ric. In short, for a long time I've been looking for a bass that is more than what it says on the label - Precision, Jazz, 4001, Ray or Flea.The obvious approach given my preference for the Precision tone has been to look for a good P/J. Probably the closest I got were Sadowsky P/Js but they just didn't quite do it, I found the J-PUP a bit tame and needing a lot of active grunt to make it work alongside the P-PUP, and to be honest, I prefer passive instruments. The Fender Roscoe Beck was amazingly versatile for a passive bass, but despite all that I read about it on here and Talkbass, I couldn't really get the Precision tone I wanted out of it.In fact I wanted this.1. A core tone very close to that of a traditional Precision (like most - but not all - of my Precisions)2. Versatile (like my Bongo, my Wals and my RBIV)3. Simple controls and circuit (like most of my Precisions and my Rics, unlike my two Wals)4. High build quality, structurally and functionally 100% reliable (like my Wals and Sadowskys)4. High playability (like my Modulus Flea),5. Passive (as were most of my Fenders, and my Rics, I just don't really like active instruments as much as passive)6. Classic looking (like most of the above, unlike the Bongo)Now the Yamaha ticks all of those boxes, and it's the first bass I've owned that does. Moreover, unlike any P/J I've owned, not only is the J-PUP powerful and sweet soloed, but it works incredibly well with the P-PUP, producing a tone that is unique yet highly useable. I think it's fair to say that with pretty much every P/J I'd owned previously, I'd use the P-PUP for some songs, the J-PUP for others, but rarely the two combined, in fact on many P/Js the combined tone is weak to the point of being unusable, or with some active basses, too synthetic for my tastes. On this bass - as was the case with my c64 - I start with both PUPs on full all of the time with the tone fully open, and make small changes from there. In fact, a huge amount of the versatility of this bass comes from the power of the PUPs, which really respond to what my hands are doing, and the sheer playability of the thing, meaning that I can get the hands in question to be a whole lot more expressive and versatile than on many other basses.And over and above all of this, it's built like a tank. Furthermore, and interestingly to my mind, whilst it feels and plays like a £2500 bass, it looks like a £500 bass. This is the opposite of a few Fender Custom Shop basses I've played which looked like £2500 instruments but felt and played like a £500 model. I don't like gigging with basses that look really valuable, so I find this an asset.All in all, as basses and me go, this is as good a pairing as I've had to date. Of course I'm not naive enough to say it's 'the one', and even if it was, things change. I am however bloody happy with itC Elle est pas belle la vie chez Yam ? Quote
gloupil Posted February 8, 2014 at 04:59 PM Posted February 8, 2014 at 04:59 PM (edited) j'y ai cru une demie journée à cette BB maple neck, puis le "rêve" s'est envolé... Edited February 8, 2014 at 05:02 PM by gloupil Quote
Jazz86 Posted February 8, 2014 at 06:39 PM Posted February 8, 2014 at 06:39 PM Le mémo de fou du gars avec la BB2024. Quand tu lis ça, tu te dis vraiment qu'acheter pour ce qui est marqué dessus c'est bien, c'est joli, ça fait plaisir ... mais à un moment quand tu deviens un bassiste raisonné et bah tu prends une Yamaha !!!! (je dis pas ça parce que j'en déjà 2 à la maison et peut être bientôt une 3ème ..) Quote
gargouill Posted February 9, 2014 at 10:18 AM Posted February 9, 2014 at 10:18 AM (edited) Je sais pas si c'est une bonne affaire. http://fr.m.audiofanzine.com/basse-electrique-frettee/yamaha/bb200/petites-annonces/i.550166.html Édit: je pensais que c'était vraiment une copie precision. Bon je laisse le lien quand même. Edited February 9, 2014 at 10:33 AM by gargouill Quote
RobTheMob Posted February 9, 2014 at 02:57 PM Posted February 9, 2014 at 02:57 PM (edited) Un comparatif 2025X/2024X/424X, il ne manque qu'une 1024 c'est dommage. Perso je trouve le son de la 424 plus sourd et moins growly que celui des deux autres. Edited February 9, 2014 at 03:07 PM by RobTheMob Quote
Jazz86 Posted February 12, 2014 at 07:45 AM Posted February 12, 2014 at 07:45 AM (edited) Serait-il indiscret de te demander son prix ? Bon alors je passe la main ... Voici la BB1024x (finalement je me remets en recherche d'une 5 cordes active et on verra plus tard pour la passive en 4 peut être une 2024 !!!) http://percutours.wizishop.com/guitare/basse-electrique/yamaha-basse-bb1024.html Son prix : 599 euros avec housse d'origine (soldes de février). Pour ceux-ce que ça intéresse : MP Edited February 12, 2014 at 07:47 AM by Jazz86 Quote
L'Oil Posted February 12, 2014 at 08:24 AM Posted February 12, 2014 at 08:24 AM Carrément. Je retiens les chevaux faute de blé... Quote
RobTheMob Posted February 12, 2014 at 08:28 AM Posted February 12, 2014 at 08:28 AM La solde est toujours valable ? Elle apparaît à 699 sur le lien Quote
gloupil Posted February 12, 2014 at 08:33 AM Posted February 12, 2014 at 08:33 AM une idée de son poids serait également sympa Quote
Jazz86 Posted February 12, 2014 at 08:59 AM Posted February 12, 2014 at 08:59 AM (edited) "599 euros" c'est le prix qu'il m'a indiqué Samedi dernier en me disant qu'il faisait ce prix pour cause d'inventaire. Pour le poids, je sais pas exactement, mais je pense qu'on peut trouver ça sur le net. Moi je l'ai trouvé un poil plus lourde que les 424 (surement dû à la qualité des bois). EDIT : Pour info, je ne suis pas client et je n'ai pas d'action non plus, je suis juste passé en badaud samedi dernier. Donc voilà comme on dit "je fais croquer les copains !!!" (J'ai vu qu'ils assuraient aussi un service de livraison) En tous cas, c'est vraiment une superbe basse. J'avoue qu'il a vraiment fallu me retenir ... Edited February 12, 2014 at 11:17 AM by Jazz86 Quote
RobTheMob Posted February 12, 2014 at 09:46 AM Posted February 12, 2014 at 09:46 AM La 424 est déjà plutôt lourde, la qualité des bois n'a pas grand chose à voir avec le poids je pense. Quote
gloupil Posted February 12, 2014 at 09:54 AM Posted February 12, 2014 at 09:54 AM à mon avis, c'est une question de "loterie"; j'avais demandé à un gars sur basschat, la sienne faisait 4,7kg, mais je suis sur qu'il doit y en avoir des beaucoup plus légères. Quote
RobTheMob Posted February 12, 2014 at 09:56 AM Posted February 12, 2014 at 09:56 AM Ma 424x fait son poids, mais l'équilibre est au top elle se fait oublier une fois sanglée. Quote
Norwood Posted February 13, 2014 at 05:32 AM Posted February 13, 2014 at 05:32 AM Dites les copains comment est la BB714 BS? C 'est bon ça? Full passive Quote
foulala Posted February 13, 2014 at 06:42 AM Posted February 13, 2014 at 06:42 AM (edited) Bof, prends carrément une ATT spécial à ce moment là. Edited February 13, 2014 at 06:44 AM by foulala Quote
Electric Joke Posted February 13, 2014 at 08:30 AM Posted February 13, 2014 at 08:30 AM Ouaip, la 714, c'est full passive (comme l'Attitude). Le truc le plus particulier sur les basses façon Billy Sheehan, c'est la tonalité unique qui s'exerce uniquement sur le mudbucker. Les seuls intérêts de la 714 par rapport à une Att, c'est la préférence touche rosewood, la forme BB au lieu de la strat, ou si tu te fiches de la sortie mono/stéréo. Quote
DolganoFF Posted February 13, 2014 at 09:45 AM Posted February 13, 2014 at 09:45 AM Je crois que "la tonalité unique qui s'exerce uniquement sur le mudbucker" est vrai uniquement pour la config stéréo en bi-amp. Quand tu sors en mono, la tonalité agit sur les deux micros! Quote
foulala Posted February 13, 2014 at 09:52 AM Posted February 13, 2014 at 09:52 AM (edited) Allez pour se faire une idée : Edited February 13, 2014 at 09:53 AM by foulala Quote
Shukran33 Posted February 16, 2014 at 10:03 AM Posted February 16, 2014 at 10:03 AM ma BB 1600L enfin présentable, après un samedi de polish, nettoyage, réglage...satisfait de moi ! Vu le prix payé, cette basse est une PUTAIN de bonne affaire franchement terrible, je l'aime Pas prêt d'être en section vente celle-là... Quote
Electric Joke Posted February 16, 2014 at 03:41 PM Posted February 16, 2014 at 03:41 PM Oui, en plus y'a pas tellement de modèle gaucher chez Yamaha. Maintenant qu'elle est présentable, on attend les soundclips Quote
foulala Posted February 17, 2014 at 05:35 AM Posted February 17, 2014 at 05:35 AM Hello les zèbres, qui a déjà testé, joué, possédé, touché une Yam BBNE2 ? Quid de l'espacement des cordes au chevalet ??? J'avions rien trouvé la dessus Docteur ! Quote
Ghost Posted February 17, 2014 at 07:15 AM Posted February 17, 2014 at 07:15 AM (edited) Sur le modèle BB2004 que je possède et qui est un dérivé meilleurs marché de la BBN2, l'espacement des cordes au chevalet est de 18mm... Edited February 17, 2014 at 07:16 AM by Ghost Quote
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