kodiakblair
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Happy to provide the information. A good friend worked for Peavey back then, he remembered the necks going to Bell & Carlson for the wrap. Somewhere at home I've photos of both the B-Quad and G-bass with tuners removed, they show the difference.
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Hugely over-priced for such an average bass. Modulus provided necks for the Peavey B-Quad but had zero involvement with the G series. G-series necks had a completely different construction process, Modulus neck are hollow inside while G-series are maple with a thin carbon wrap. The pickup was surplus stock from the discontinued active Forum. Some had Gotoh bridges but many had copies of Gotoh bridges. All had Korean copies of Gotoh machine heads. Link is to a photo of mine https://ibb.co/RPSW218
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Harley Benton Pb-50 Sb Vintage Series
kodiakblair replied to hutch30's topic in Revues des basses des membres
I spoke with an English player, he toured with a Rock n Roll revival show for 2 years using the PB-50; 300+ shows without any problems 🙂 With it's status as a veteran of the road secure the PB-50 accepted retirement gracefully, still makes an appearance once a month for Blues gigs. Wonderful bass the PB-50 😎 -
1er prix de marque prestige vs haut de gamme d'une marque grand public
kodiakblair replied to Gorzogue's topic in Basse
Neither, I prefer to play the one fit for purpose. My taste runs to single coil P-basses. I have a Fender Japan Paisley P-bass from the early 90's, it's a nice bass with a lovely finish. Manufacture is precise and the tone pleasing. I also have a Harley Benton PB-50 from 2013, price on purchase was a mere £78 By rights the Benton should be rubbish compared to the Fender, this is not the case. The Benton manufacture is good. Pots/tuning pegs/bridge etc, all the areas costs are saved, remain stock. The Wilkinson single coil is superb, like a Seymour SCPB-1 only with higher output. It is the neck where the PB-50 really shines, thinner than the Fender and with a matt instead of gloss finish I find it easier to play. The PB-50 rendered the Fender a vanity Of course here I am comparing the most basic of bass design, to succeed all a single coil P-bass must do is play comfortably -
No idea of trade in but I saw one of mine listed for sale on the UK Basschat forum recently. I sold it for £450 in 2018, buyer got £750 for it last month. There has been another T-40 on the Basschat forum since last August, also priced at £750 yet this one has had little interest. This £750 figure appears in line with a bassic.de discussion I was involved in, that was back in December 2021 with German players saying they thought 600€ - 650€ to be a realistic price.
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Harley Benton Pb-50 Sb Vintage Series
kodiakblair replied to hutch30's topic in Revues des basses des membres
Don't concern yourself with the machine head spacing, those are fixed points. You will not get the generic PB-50 tuning pegs to match the spacing of the Schallers fitted to the T-40. Just follow the method I described in the Basschat thread. Work from the back of the headstock and keep the two straight edges matching. -
Harley Benton Pb-50 Sb Vintage Series
kodiakblair replied to hutch30's topic in Revues des basses des membres
@Father Ted No trouble at all, I have a couple of T-40's in parts Reached my attachment allowance but you can access the scan with this link . https://www.amazon.co.uk/photos/share/5TY0HzweoyuqxumAEzeqkM4nqmURgdP1DHK6IpXOO3q Print out at 100%, with careful positioning you will achieve the re shape. As for how hard/tender the body wood is, PB-50s are reasonably resilient. I'm not particularly careful with my basses yet my oldest PB-50, 9 years , is in great shape. Enjoy your project and I look forward to seeing the end result. -
I just clicked your 'reveal hidden contents' , those are not failings
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Harley Benton Pb-50 Sb Vintage Series
kodiakblair replied to hutch30's topic in Revues des basses des membres
I own several Peaveys, would you like a trace/scan of the T-40 headstock ? Hideous is always an option I was given this stripped PB-50 body last year -
Harley Benton Pb-50 Sb Vintage Series
kodiakblair replied to hutch30's topic in Revues des basses des membres
Well if you need any further explanation just ask , I posted that Basschat thread -
Harley Benton Pb-50 Sb Vintage Series
kodiakblair replied to hutch30's topic in Revues des basses des membres
I feel the same way about mine, soon to celebrate our 9th anniversary -
kodiakblair started following Le Peavey Club and Nouvelles Harley Benton
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There was two versions of Indonesian Cirrus, both were built in the Samick factory. Peavey released the Cirrus BXP in 2007. Those started out as 35" scale length but the four strings later changed to 34" scale length. The BXP pickups are the exact same as those used for US Cirrus models, three band EQ boosts/cuts the same frequencies to the same level as US models. Instead of an ABM bridge these had single saddle bridges. Discontinued in 2015. I see these sell for £3-400 here in the UK. 2017 saw the Cirrus relaunched. They followed US spec to the letter. An extra feature was the inclusion of the 'Power Plate', this was Peavey's version of the 'Fathead'. A pointless addition in my opinion as 2+2/ 3+2 reduced headstocks rarely suffer from dead spots. All had rosewood fretboards Though fine basses, they were a marketing disaster. Peavey released them three weeks after the CITES ruling on rosewood and bubinga changed. The extra paperwork headache concerning rosewood boards meant no distributors would take them, only country Peavey could sell them in was the USA. Price was another factor which doomed the 2017 Cirrus. They carried a price tag of $1200 for four strings, $1500 for five strings. In 2017 you could buy a used US Cirrus for $600.
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In reality , Much closer than folk care to admit with the "darkwood" BXP too close for comfort. A Cirrus owning friend was visiting from England , on the drive here she acquired a "darkwood" Cirrus BXP 5 string for £199 . Left to right Cirrus BXP, Bubinga bolt on , Walnut , Mahogany bolt on, Darkwood BXP. https://imgur.com/zndb4in My Cirrus credentials were roughly the same. Teal, Tiger eye custom , Walnut and a BXP model ; also this Mahogany bolt on. https://imgur.com/Wu6dbJg[img]https://i.imgur.com/6yR5iyEm.jpg[/img] Safe to say we were well acquainted with US Cirrus basses. Her recently purchased BXP darkwood was put to the test with both of us concluding it looked like a US Cirrus/sounded like a US Cirrus/played like a US Cirrus and in the hand felt like a US Cirrus. BXP models use the same VFL pickups as the US models , their preamps +/- at the same frequencies as the US models by the same level of dB. Their downfall in my opinion is the gloss finish on the neck. No gloss finish on the darkwood we were so impressed with
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Thanks. I am no expert, I just own a lot of Peaveys I have been very lucky in owning at least one of each model they released.
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Hi Karmacoma. Your correct about the US Cirrus , they were discontinued in 2010. Actually all US production ended in 2010. Asian Cirrus production ran from 2007 until 2015 , this was at the Samick Indonesian factory. Production started back up in 2017 , again with Samick Indonesia. This later version was almost an exact replica of the US models. Peavey decision to have a rosewood fretboard had a serious effect on sales. The bass debuted 3 weeks after the CITES regulations of rosewood started. No international distributors ordered the new Cirrus leaving Peavey with only the US market to try and sell them. Launch prices were $1200 for 4 strings , $1500 for 5 strings ; there was no 6 string model. At that time US Cirrus basses were selling for $600 to $700 on the used market ; meaning almost no-one bought the new Indonesian version. The new model was dropped in 2018. Microphones are Peavey's VFL ( vertical flux loaded). These were designed by Peavey's bass guru Mike Powers ,; production of the VFLs was by G&B , a Korean company. Those VFLs appeared in many Peavey models both US and Asian. Mike was impressed by the G&L MFD microphone so set out to copy them. Originally conceived as a passive unit it was too close to the G&L product, a letter from G&L's legal team saw the microphone change to active Preamp is a 3 band EQ , designed in the US but produced in Korea. For a US bass very little was US made. Along with the Korean microphones/preamp ,the tuning keys / knobs/ strap buttons and covers were also Korean. The bridge is from Germany , Tusq nut is Canadian. Zephyr humbuckers are nice. Quite hot with ceramic magnets , DCR around 14.38 K ohm . Typical 4 wire humbuckers , you can add a switch for series/passive or single coil.