robintrack Posted May 19, 2011 at 08:52 AM Share Posted May 19, 2011 at 08:52 AM quelqu'un saurait me parler du Sen ? hoochie m'a parlé de basses avec corps Sen mais je ne connais pas du tout cette essence de meme quelqu'un pourrait me parler de la touche pao farro ? je connais les caracreristiques de l'erable et du palissandre mais pas le pao farro merci ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kascollet Posted May 19, 2011 at 09:14 AM Share Posted May 19, 2011 at 09:14 AM (edited) Le sen est une sorte japonaise de frêne et semble en avoir les caractéristiques. Ma TRB est en frêne... ou en sen selon la doc technique consultée. J'imagine que c'est juste une histoire de nom ? Après, c'est compliqué car il existe plusieurs types de frêne. Ma TRB est très légère donc semblerait être faite d'un frêne léger, comme le swamp ash/frêne noir. De nombreuses lawsuit sont officiellement en sen, comme mon ex Tokai Hardpuncher (réplique PB), qui était légère elle aussi. Pour le Pao ferro, c'est souvent présenté comme un compromis entre palissandre et ébène, plus vif que le premier et plus chaud que le second. C'est le bois de touche favori chez Spector, certaines Fender et les Musicman fretless. Edited May 19, 2011 at 09:25 AM by kascollet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DolganoFF Posted May 19, 2011 at 09:26 AM Share Posted May 19, 2011 at 09:26 AM Oui, pao ferro est plus dense (et donc plus rigide) que palissandre, le grain est beaucoup plus serré. Mais ça reste un bois huileux donc plus "chaud" que l'ébène. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robintrack Posted May 19, 2011 at 09:26 AM Author Share Posted May 19, 2011 at 09:26 AM un frene leger ca doit sonner ca non ? qu'en dirais tu par rapport a l'aulne ? puisque tu en as eu une, quelle est ton avis sur la hardpuncher ? pourquoi l'as tu revendu ? merci ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kascollet Posted May 19, 2011 at 09:32 AM Share Posted May 19, 2011 at 09:32 AM Japanese ash and sen are exports from the Orient used in the United States. Japanese Ash, also known as tamo, is a light-colored hardwood with a strawcolored heartwood that is slightly darker than its European and US counterparts. It features a straight grain most of the time, but when the grain is curly or wavy it produces an unusual but beautiful pattern called peanut figure. Wavy-grained wood is known as tamo while the straight-grained wood is usually called Japanese Ash. Its color is brownish-tan through gray to almost white, with a pattern that is plain to highly varied with swirls, fiddleback mottle or peanut-shell figured and an extreme grain character. The tree is unusual in that half of it can be figured, while the other half is very plain. For that reason, loggers concentrate on bringing the more valuable figured portion to market. Tamo is a favorite of furniture designers who like to feature exotic patterns. Figured Japanese ash is popular and varies in pattern from peanut figure to a leaf figure. Japanese ash is coarse textured. It will dry fairly quickly without discernible degrade and it has medium movement in service. The wood performs well with hard and power tools, although moderate dulling of tools can be a problem; cutting edges should be sharpened frequently. Japanese ash needs to be prebored for nailing. Like American and European ash, Japanese ash or Fraxinus mandschurica (family Oleaceae) is widely used for sports equipment such as racquets, bats, billiard cue sticks, skis, hockey sticks and polo mallet heads. It is also used for furniture and cabinetry, doors, flooring and plywood. Sen, known botanically as Acanthopanax ricinofolius, goes by a variety of names including harigiri, sen-no- ki, nakada, tse tsin, and in the United States as castor arabia. It is used for carving and joinery, chests, furniture, paneling, buildings, and sports equipment. Sen's heartwood is yellow to greenish brown in color, with a straight grain and somewhat coarse texture. While sen bears a strong resemblance to Japanese ash, it is generally thought to be weaker, so its use is recommended where strength may not be as important. Sen dries rapidly and shows degrade. To minimize high shrinkage during seasoning, sen should be slowly kiln dried. Unlike Japanese ash, it shows much movement in service and can warp, shrink and swell after it has been dried. Sen is considered just as easy to work with as Japanese ash and earns high marks for nailing, taking screws, gluing and staining. un frene leger ca doit sonner ca non ? qu'en dirais tu par rapport a l'aulne ? puisque tu en as eu une, quelle est ton avis sur la hardpuncher ? pourquoi l'as tu revendu ? merci ! Je sais pas trop pour le son. C'est le genre de bois neutre qui ne teintera pas trop le timbre. La Harpuncher était une PB a la lutherie remarquable et une très bonne PB tout court. Tu peux lire ma review ici : http://forum.onlybass.com/index.php?/topic/46702-tokai-jazz-sound-et-hard-puncher/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenhny Posted May 19, 2011 at 11:47 PM Share Posted May 19, 2011 at 11:47 PM tiens, deux sites qui te seront assez intéressants : http://www.warmoth.com/Bass/Options/WoodDescriptions.aspx http://www.alembic.com/info/woodsamples.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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