AraokAtao Posted February 3, 2009 at 12:02 PM Share Posted February 3, 2009 at 12:02 PM (edited) Voilà la construction de la Violaine spéciale se déroulant plutôt bien ( voir topic dans Lutherie), et l'envie de CB étant tjs présente Je me propose de lancer la fabrication d'une violaine allongée et qui se jouerait debout sur une pique rétractable ! et surtout d'en faire plusieurs identiques en même temps pour tirer les prix .... commentaires ? Edited February 3, 2009 at 12:03 PM by AraokAtao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frizzouille Posted February 3, 2009 at 07:13 PM Share Posted February 3, 2009 at 07:13 PM La jouabilité serait type contrebasse acoustique ou basse fretless verticale? (je pense au type de manche, son profil, sa jonction avec le corps, l'épaisseur de la caisse, etc...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yardbird Posted February 3, 2009 at 08:42 PM Share Posted February 3, 2009 at 08:42 PM On doit se rapprocher de la Gibson EB1, une basse à laquelle on ajoutait un pique pour jouer en contrebasse. http://www.hiboox.fr/go/images/divers/gibsoneb1,5cf2da388158e58db698456b693390f4.jpg.html' target="_blank"> J'ai sa petite soeur en Epiphone, copie conforme mais ça sonne définiivement comme une basse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AraokAtao Posted February 3, 2009 at 08:58 PM Author Share Posted February 3, 2009 at 08:58 PM Voilà j'hésite et si c'est super simple de jouer debout sur une touche type contrebasse , c'est plus coton à fabriquer et à transporter.. Je suis pourtant parti sur cette idée ? Électronique piezo sur chevalet contrebasse et Schaller magnétique en bout de touche pour les amateurs La caisse ne serait pas plus épaisse qu'une basse semi hollowbody voir le topic de la Violaine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagneu Posted February 15, 2009 at 07:53 PM Share Posted February 15, 2009 at 07:53 PM Faut faire gaffe. C'est très dur de jouer debout avec un manche parralèle au corps, comme sur une basse. Il faudrait vraiment le gros renversement type contrebasse pour etre bien jouable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AraokAtao Posted February 15, 2009 at 08:02 PM Author Share Posted February 15, 2009 at 08:02 PM (edited) Je suis bien d'accord avec toi, c'est pourquoi je m'orienterais vers un manche renversé Edited February 15, 2009 at 08:02 PM by AraokAtao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre-Antoine Roiron Posted February 16, 2009 at 01:57 PM Share Posted February 16, 2009 at 01:57 PM Gros renversement et garder une géométrie de cordes/chevalet semblable à une contre si tu veux que ça sonne pas comme une fretless. Quand au piezzo, je te conseille de le troquer pour un BBand... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AraokAtao Posted February 16, 2009 at 03:04 PM Author Share Posted February 16, 2009 at 03:04 PM c'est quoi un BBand ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiki613 Posted February 16, 2009 at 03:16 PM Share Posted February 16, 2009 at 03:16 PM http://www.b-band.com/index.php?page=doubl...-pickup-systems tiens je profite tu ne pourrais pas un petit review sur ce système Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AraokAtao Posted February 16, 2009 at 03:30 PM Author Share Posted February 16, 2009 at 03:30 PM Je parle anglais comme une vache espagnole donc copier-coller pour les anglophones Double-Bass Pickup Systems D1-DoubleBassThe D1 System The D1 system’s sound is warm, tight, and dynamic and has plenty of headroom to play your instrument loud! The D1 double bass has been developed in close coordination with technicians and artists. The D1 system includes a simple and unobtrusive active preamp that is an all-in-one construction with the 1/4”output jack. This attaches easily onto the two middle strings between the bridge and tailpiece. The 9-volt battery clip simply attaches to the tailpiece with Velcro. Full Details The B-Band Statement The B-Band Statement is like no other Double Bass pickup system. Awarded the Bass Player’s magazine Editor’s Top Tone Award (January 2002), it is the only system that offers the greatest sonic possibilities for both pizzicato and arco styles. After manufacturing Statement system for almost 10 years, we are now making major update to it. Next generation Statement double-bass system is to be released about mid 2009. Full details of the "old" system, no more available http://imageshack.us' target="_blank"> Frequently Asked Questions Q: Can you use B-Band pickups with other brand preamps? A: No. Using any B-Band pickups with another brand preamp will not work well or sound good. B-Band is the only brand that uses Emfit® material in the pickups. Emfit material has very different properties from other material used (mostly Piezo material). These properties let the instruments natural, unique, voice character come through. These special properties and specifications need a special designed B-Band preamp to perform best. Please only use B-Band pickups with B-Band preamps. Q: Can you use B-Band preamps with other brand pickups? A: No. See first question and answer- for the same reason. Q: Can you use B-Band pickups without a B-Band preamp? A: No. B-Band pickups always need a B-Band preamp to work. Q: Which B-Band guitar related pickup and preamp models work with classical or nylon string guitars? A: All B-Band guitar related pickup and preamp models basically work with any classical, nylon string, and steel string guitars. Q: Which pickup should I use in my guitar? A: The B-Band UST (undersaddle) and AST (soundboard) acoustic guitar pickups can basically be used in any situation and guitar. The best result is using both pickups with a dual input preamp (B-Band A2.2 or A6T XOM® preamps currently available at the time of this writing) because of the wide variety of complex tone that can be had. But if you want to go with a more basic setup, for example, one pickup, then read on. Overall, the B-Band UST undersaddle pickup, used alone, can produce a sound that will closely rival many dual systems or mics, and works best in more performance situations from quiet solo settings to loud stage band rock. Because of the special properties of the Emfit material in used in the pickup, the UST has a very wide frequency and dynamic response and very good at rejecting feedback. The AST soundboard pickup is relatively easy to install. The AST by itself, sounds quite close to a small to medium diaphragm studio condenser mic. The AST pickup is fairly small but when added to the soundboard or bridge plate of the guitar the pickup pattern bigger and more sensitive to sound, and because of this makes the AST somewhat sensitive to feedback. In general, the AST, used alone, is suitable for low to medium loud performances. The preamps that are most used with the AST, the A1.2N, A2.2 and A6T, have circuits that help the AST in more lively situations. The A1.2N has a "notch" in the midrange tone to smooth the sound and save the AST sound from the sensitive mid-range feedback levels. The A2.2 and A6T, both with the exclusive XOM mix circuit, combine the mid to high frequencies AST sound with the low to mid tones of UST sound. Q: Which preamp will the AG-MIC guitar soundhole condenser microphone work with? A: The AG-MIC microphone will only work at the #2 channel of the model A2 preamp. The AG-MIC will not work with any other preamp. It will not work with A1.2; A1.2N; A2.2; A3; A3T; A5T; A6T; A11. It will not work with older preamp models A4.2; A6; A6.2. B-Band made the A2 for quite a long time and it could be that a store may have one. B-Band has none in stock. The A2 was discountined mid- 2007. There will be a new A2 model coming in 2009 (no exact date at the time of writing this- November 2008). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AraokAtao Posted February 16, 2009 at 03:50 PM Author Share Posted February 16, 2009 at 03:50 PM ce genre là mais bien fabriqué ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry Posted February 16, 2009 at 04:03 PM Share Posted February 16, 2009 at 04:03 PM J'ai ça si ca peut te donner des idées... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AraokAtao Posted February 16, 2009 at 05:43 PM Author Share Posted February 16, 2009 at 05:43 PM Salut, et merci........ T'as pas d'autre photos ? de profil notamment ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry Posted February 16, 2009 at 09:09 PM Share Posted February 16, 2009 at 09:09 PM J'en ai pas sous la main là. Elle fait 7-8cm d'epaisseur pour la caisse et ca monte juste 15cm au niveau du chevalet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaD92 Posted February 16, 2009 at 10:04 PM Share Posted February 16, 2009 at 10:04 PM désolé de cette question bassement matériel, mais avez vous une idée du cout de fabrication? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry Posted February 16, 2009 at 10:17 PM Share Posted February 16, 2009 at 10:17 PM Difficile a dire, tout depends de ton equipement en outillage. Le bois ne coute pas trop cher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AraokAtao Posted February 16, 2009 at 10:42 PM Author Share Posted February 16, 2009 at 10:42 PM (edited) Vu la qualité de fabrication et les matériaux mis en œuvre pour la basse Violaine qui revient à à peu près 1500 € je pense qu'on devrait pouvoir limiter le coût à 2000€ tout en utilisant des "pièces contrebasse" qui coutent chère à l'achat ( touche, chevalet et cordier, jeux de cordes et mécaniques, béquille réglable, Etc...) C'est une approximation et il n'y a pas grand chose à gratter pour celui qui réalise..... Mais bon désolé Larry, mais on utilisera que des bois tip top donc chers Palissandre Indien ou frène olivier, Ovenkold, ébène, voir de beaux érables pour un modèle bois clair, Etc Edited February 16, 2009 at 10:45 PM by AraokAtao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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