epoxyjazzbass Posted June 15, 2008 at 08:00 PM Share Posted June 15, 2008 at 08:00 PM Je m' interresse aux vigier passion et arpege (d' occas ?). J' aimerais bien essayer. Je voudrais votre avis sur les differentes serie. Comme ca je prefererait les versions tout carbone (serie II ok ?) pour le manche mais elles seraient plus lourdes... Est-ce vrai ? Voila si vous avez des preferences sur la composition du manche donnez votre avis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gromulator Posted June 16, 2008 at 11:23 AM Share Posted June 16, 2008 at 11:23 AM allo Bassty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zered Posted June 16, 2008 at 12:26 PM Share Posted June 16, 2008 at 12:26 PM Salut, Pour mémoire, les séries I (a ma connaissance, pas de Passion de cette série là, sauf peut-être celle non-conformiste de Basstyra) sont toutes en bois avec des manches conducteurs, en sandwich d'érable et de noyer. séries II ont donc un manche 100% en carbonne. Ils sont collés avec un insert profond dans le corps séries III ont un manche conducteur avec le système 90/10, c'est à dire 90% de bois (érable) et 10% de carbone en deux barres de renfort séries IV (sorties cette année) manche vissé avec le système 90/10 J'ai eu des représentantes des 3 premières séries. Les plus lourdes sont les séries I (peut-être parce que ce sont ldes Arpège et que leur corps est un peu plus volumineux, ou bien parce qu'elles étaient en noyer...), et de loin les plus légères sont les séries II (le carbone y est évidemment pour quelque chose) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gromulator Posted June 16, 2008 at 12:34 PM Share Posted June 16, 2008 at 12:34 PM comme dis Z. Moi j'ai une arpége 81 Touche delta métal, donc c'est un peu particulier. Le son , j'adore en tous cas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basstyra Posted June 16, 2008 at 12:54 PM Share Posted June 16, 2008 at 12:54 PM Il existe des Passions de la série I. Elles sont arrivées après les Arpèges, mais bien avant le début de la série II. La série I est en bois, Erable/Noyer, avec sous-touche métal et touche composite (phenowood). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epoxyjazzbass Posted June 16, 2008 at 02:54 PM Author Share Posted June 16, 2008 at 02:54 PM de loin les plus légères sont les séries II (le carbone y est évidemment pour quelque chose) A ben donc c' est l' inverse de ce qu' on m' a dit.Je te faits confiance.Ca conforte mon choix d' une serie II. Merci a tous pour toutes ces reponses. Et y-a-t' il des differences de son significative entre un meme model des differentes series ? Et puis arpege ou passion... Suis habitues aux fender (surtout jazz) mais vu que je cherche un instrument different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zered Posted June 16, 2008 at 04:22 PM Share Posted June 16, 2008 at 04:22 PM C'est jamais très simple de répondre sur des questions de sonorités. Pour les Passion que j'ai pu jouer et entendre (séries 2 et 3), celles avec le manche carbonne avaient plus de claquant et faisaient ressortir plutot plus le côté un peu "pincé" du son (du à la position particulière des micros) et qui lui donne tout son intérêt. Pour les Arpège, j'ai eu deux Séries I en 4 cordes, l'une frettée, l'autre fretless (touche métal) et une 5 cordes de la Série III. Les deux premières sonnent fabuleusement bien. La position des micros, plus standard que la Passion fait qu'on s'y retrouve vite. La série III sonnaient très bien aussi, mais uniquement en passive. L'électronique des Arpège série III (avec 12 sons présélectionnés) m'a semblé à peu près inutilisable (sauf à en choisir un et ne jamais changer) et rend les capacités de la bête difficile à cerner (enfin, pour mon petit cerveau ) Pour les différences entre Passion et Arpège, Basstyra en a beaucoup et bien parlé au moment de la vente de son Arpège. Utilise la fonction recherche du forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epoxyjazzbass Posted June 16, 2008 at 05:02 PM Author Share Posted June 16, 2008 at 05:02 PM pour les différences entre Passion et Arpège, Basstyra en a beaucoup et bien parlé au moment de la vente de son Arpège. Utilise la fonction recherche du forum. Merci j' avais vu; le lien du test de l' arpege semble perimé bref. Pour la passion la position des micros semble extreme pour un fenderiste.J' immagine qu' elle sonne encore plus vigier que l' arpege, ... . http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=WILDNiF6k38 Comme ca (ecoute a casque) je me fait cette idee des vigier.Un son super precis et "hifi".Une legere frise qui donne tout le caractere et le growl a l' instrument.Possible revers de la medaille, je suppose que ces basses n' ont pas grand interet avec un reglage haut et de gros tirants. Je crois qu' il faut que j' essaye et voila. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zered Posted June 16, 2008 at 05:17 PM Share Posted June 16, 2008 at 05:17 PM Le bassiste sur cette vidéo nous fait le plaisir de passer de temps en temps sur le forum. Il s'agit de Ped. Et, soit je ne le trouve plus, soit il a disparu, mais il existait un topic intitulé Vigier Addict Club et qui recensait pas mal de choses, notamment des soundclips... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epoxyjazzbass Posted June 16, 2008 at 09:25 PM Author Share Posted June 16, 2008 at 09:25 PM Et, soit je ne le trouve plus, soit il a disparu, mais il existait un topic intitulé Vigier Addict Club et qui recensait pas mal de choses, notamment des soundclips... A dommage en effet. Mais mercipour tes reponses ca repond deja a certaines de mes interrogations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basstyra Posted June 16, 2008 at 09:50 PM Share Posted June 16, 2008 at 09:50 PM J'en ai en effet pas mal parlé, ca doit être dans la review de ma Passion, dans la section Reviews. L'effet "pincé" (dû effectivement surtout à l'emplacement des micros) dont parle Zered est à mon avis la différente fondamentale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epoxyjazzbass Posted June 17, 2008 at 10:44 AM Author Share Posted June 17, 2008 at 10:44 AM Je dois etre empoté mais je trouve pas la review (c' est quoi la section review ?). Il semble que certains posts aient disparus ou perimes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basstyra Posted June 17, 2008 at 10:47 AM Share Posted June 17, 2008 at 10:47 AM Bah merde alors, elle semble avoir disparue... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gromulator Posted June 17, 2008 at 11:16 AM Share Posted June 17, 2008 at 11:16 AM avec toutes ces belles photos qu'il y avait , snif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted June 17, 2008 at 02:41 PM Share Posted June 17, 2008 at 02:41 PM Hi guys! I am still here just waiting for Vigier threads!!! Hope everyone is well. I will post some sound clips when I am able, but in a nutshell: The series 2 basses have the characteristics of a graphite necked bass - very wide frequency response, very even and consistent sounding. The series 3 I found a little 'narrower' sounding I suppose, but not to the detriment of the sound. It sounded a bit more like a modern take on a Jazz bass for example. I found the sound a bit more 'harsh' and less 'supple'. The bass still had that familiar 'snap' and 'bounce' ;0) I have recently put a Roland V-bass on my fretted bass and now it can sound like a Vigier Passion, a Fender Jazz and a Musicman - listen for yourself: http://media.putfile.com/Vigier-S2-clean http://media.putfile.com/Vigier-S2-Jazz-Bass http://media.putfile.com/Vigier-S2-Musicman There is more info on the Vbass here: http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=14132 I still think the Series 2 Vigier basses are the the most exciting - though I am looking forward to trying the series 4 soon... Cheers ped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zered Posted June 17, 2008 at 02:52 PM Share Posted June 17, 2008 at 02:52 PM Impressionnant ce que peut faire ce V-Bass Je n'avais jamais fait gaffe aux capacités de ces machins là, pensant que ça ne servait qu'à faire des bruits bizarres ou faire semblant de jouer de l'orchestre philarmonique avec une basse à deux cordes... Impressive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted June 17, 2008 at 02:56 PM Share Posted June 17, 2008 at 02:56 PM :lol: yes you can do many weird things with it but I have only had it a few weeks and really enjoying it. It is brilliant to have al my fave bass sounds on my #1 bass!! Here is a picture of it: Thanks for the comments! Of course the Vbass wouldn't sound half as good if it was installed on anything other than a lovely VIGIER!! By the same token it would sound even better if I could play properly!! Cheers ped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gromulator Posted June 17, 2008 at 04:47 PM Share Posted June 17, 2008 at 04:47 PM (edited) Vigier Ped is back!!!! Ouah, nice and welcome again ! edit for The-red-One: C'est quoi cet avatar pourri Z ????? alors que Lilic t'en a posté un super.... Edited June 17, 2008 at 04:50 PM by gromulator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted June 17, 2008 at 05:14 PM Share Posted June 17, 2008 at 05:14 PM When I translate this page into English my username 'ped' turns to 'Developing Countries'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basstyra Posted June 17, 2008 at 05:20 PM Share Posted June 17, 2008 at 05:20 PM (edited) I think PED stands for Pays en voie de Développement. Which litteraly means a "country currently developing itself", a polite way of calling a Third Wolrd Country. Edited June 17, 2008 at 05:21 PM by Basstyra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gromulator Posted June 17, 2008 at 05:23 PM Share Posted June 17, 2008 at 05:23 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epoxyjazzbass Posted June 17, 2008 at 06:43 PM Author Share Posted June 17, 2008 at 06:43 PM Ped you are a great bassist. Perfect time without making to much !! What gauges do you use with your vigier bass ? And what kind of setup ? (je demande a ped le tirant de corde qu' il utilise et l' action...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gromulator Posted June 17, 2008 at 06:54 PM Share Posted June 17, 2008 at 06:54 PM The Vigier topic disapeared Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted June 17, 2008 at 09:15 PM Share Posted June 17, 2008 at 09:15 PM Ped you are a great bassist.Perfect time without making to much !! What gauges do you use with your vigier bass ? And what kind of setup ? (je demande a ped le tirant de corde qu' il utilise et l' action...) Thank you very much for the kind comments. I just like to groove and leave the flashy stuff to others! My strings are Elixir super light (.040-.095) which I am really happy with. They last me literally years - would you believe the strings I recorded the clips on the last page with are over a year old. They still sound brand new. I have three new sets to the side which won't be used for a long time! The setup on the bass is extremely low action with zero neck relief (one of the reasons I preferred this bass to my old series 3 as the series 3 had a small amount of relief in the neck). I haven't had to adjust the setup in all the time I have had it because it never moves! I play quite lightly so don't find the low action chokes the sound or anything. I have never played a bass which touches it for playability. Whilst I love the sounds of a good modern Jaz bass and musicman, Ken Smith etc I could never find ones that felt as comfortable as my Vigier, so now with the V bass I have all that on this one super feeling instrument, plus of course the Vigier sound which by itself is my all time favourite sound ever! I usually tune DADG but some of my songs were recorded on 5 strings (which I used to tube BEADG all flat) which confuses things. I am considering getting hipshot Xtender tuners fitted for dropping the whole bass. On the Youtube clip I think I am tuned DADG all flat. My signal chain goes like this: Studio: Bass > Vbass > XT pro > Sure E2cs Live: As above (in ear monitoring) or with Trace Elliot V4 1x15 combo as well as the Sure IEMs. Cheers ped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epoxyjazzbass Posted June 17, 2008 at 09:49 PM Author Share Posted June 17, 2008 at 09:49 PM My strings are Elixir super light (.040-.095) which I am really happy with.The setup on the bass is extremely low action with zero neck relief Light gauges strings and low action just as I thought. (donc corde light, manche totalement droit/action basse) The V-bass is a good piece of gear with plenty of true sound.With the playability of the vigier bass you have lots of possibility. Thanks very much for all these details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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